Machine Made, Legally Challenged: Large Language Models on Trial (Presented by The Federal Bar Association Annual Meeting & Convention 2025 sponsor Ciresi Conlin LLP)

Barry Landy, Partner and Chair of the Business Litigation Group | Ciresi Conlin LLP

Barry is a nationally recognized trial lawyer with deep experience in complex disputes involving trade secrets, fiduciary duties, and contracts. He has secured landmark results for clients—including a $375 million settlement in a five-year litigation battle involving claims of breach of contract and trade secret misappropriation, a $27 million resolution in a royalty dispute, and a $12.5 million recovery for ERISA plaintiffs. Known for working seamlessly with corporate counsel and business leaders, Barry brings strategic judgment and practical problem-solving to high stakes matters.

Outside the courtroom, he contributes to his community through service on the boards of the Northside Achievement Zone, Minnesota Zoo, and the Federal Bar Association’s Minnesota Chapter. He has received accolades from Chambers USA, Benchmark Litigation, Minnesota Lawyer, and Super Lawyers.

Jacob Siegel, Partner | Ciresi Conlin LLP

Jake is a partner at Ciresi Conlin, where his practice focuses on commercial litigation, complex civil litigation, and appeals. Jake represents individuals and local and national companies in a wide variety of sectors, from biotechnology to nonprofit organizations and from consumer goods to construction and heavy manufacturing. He litigates bet-the-company contract cases, trade secret disputes, and other intellectual property matters, and represents plaintiffs and defendants in class actions and other complex civil matters. He also briefs and argues appeals before all levels of appellate courts in Minnesota and around the country.

Jake maintains an active pro bono practice representing indigent individuals and community organizations, with an emphasis on protecting the environment and the rights of children and working families.

I. What are large language models and how do they intersect with the traditional intellectual property rights paradigm? | 2:00pm – 2:05pm

II. Copyright Litigation | 2:05pm – 2:40pm

• The Fair Use Doctrine
  • What is the fair use doctrine?
  • 2025 district court decisions applying fair use to AI Thomson Reuters Enterprise Centre GmbH v. Ross Intelligence, Inc. 765 F. Supp. 3d 382 (D. Del. 2025) Bartz v. Anthropic PBC, 787 F. Supp. 3d 1007 (N.D. Cal. 2025) Kadrey v. Meta Platforms, Inc., 788 F. Supp. 3d 1026 (N.D. Cal. 2025)
• Update on Bartz et al. v. Anthropic PBC settlement
• Other pending district court litigation

III. Moving Beyond Copyright Litigation | 2:40pm – 3:00pm

• Copyright preemption as a barrier to asserting other claims
• Antitrust claims
  • Helena World Chronicle v. Google (D.D.C.)
• Other claims
  • Contract
  • Unfair competition
  • Misappropriation
  • Passing off